Nefertiti, onbetreden kamers in het graf van Toetanchamon

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Re: Nefertiti, onbetreden kamers in het graf van Toetanchamo

Berichtdoor gaspard » Zo Mei 08, 2016 3:17 pm

Via het EEF ontving ik het programma van de internationale conferentie over Toetanchamon.
Deze conferentie gaat door in het GEM in Caïro van 6/5/2016 tem.8/5/2016.
URL : http://www.arce.org/files/user/page1/Tu ... m_2016.pdf
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Re: Nefertiti, onbetreden kamers in het graf van Toetanchamo

Berichtdoor gaspard » Zo Mei 08, 2016 10:22 pm

Op 8/5/2016 heb ik de eindconclusie van de internationale conferentie over Toetanchamon via het EEF ontvangen.
De eindconclusie is:
''It is essential to perform more scans using other devices at the Tutankhamun Tomb (KV62) at the Valley of the Kings- Luxor using more technical and scientific methods and radar devices" is one of a number of recommendations reached at the end of the Second International Tutankhamun Conference that was held today (May 8th 2016) at the National Museum of Egyptian Civilization (NMEC).
Antiquities Minister Dr. Khaled El-Enany emphasized at the open scientific discussion that came at the end of the conference that no drilling will be done at the tomb’s walls unless we are 100% certain that there is a cavity behind them.
Egyptology and radar experts participated in the final session among them former antiquities ministers Dr. Zahi Hawas and Dr. Mamdouh Eldamaty, the Japanese radar expert Prof. Watanabe, Dr. Yaser El-Shayeb from the Faculty of Engineering, Cairo University and a number of Egyptian archaeologists and stakeholder.
In his lecture, former Antiquities Minister Dr. Zahi Hawas said that radar scan is not sufficient alone to make a new archaeological discovery stressing that he is against the British scientist Nicholas Reeves’ hypothesis that Queen Nefertiti’s tomb exist behind that of King Tut’s.
Hawas added that a scientific committee consisting of archaeologists, radar experts and remote sensing experts should be formed immediately to supervise the works inside the tomb.
Former antiquities minister Dr. Eldamaty also gave a lecture entitled “the Rediscovery of the Tutankhamun Tomb” in which he summed up all the work steps that have been made at the radar scan project at the Golden Pharaoh’s tomb, expressing that the results reached so point out that there is a 50% possibility of a cavity behind the Tomb’s walls.
In a related context, Dr. Tarek Tawfik – General Supervisor on the Grand Egyptian Museum (GEM) Project added that among the recommendations of this conference came the formation of an Egyptian Archaeological Committee with the assistance of foreign experts aiming at drawing a road map for the transfer process of the Golden Pharaoh’s fragile artifacts that are sensitive to light and motion.
Also the Tutankhamun’s Research Center that was established last year will be provided with a web channel to publish all the researches and studies related to the Boy King" - Ministry of Antiquities press release via the Egyptologists' Electronic Forum.
=> We gaan dus terug naar af :(
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Re: Nefertiti, onbetreden kamers in het graf van Toetanchamo

Berichtdoor gaspard » Zo Mei 08, 2016 10:31 pm

Op de website van ahramonline vinden we op 8/5/2016 een artikel terug met de eindconclusie van het " Toetanchamon-Congres" in Caïro.
URL : http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/208370.aspx
Mijn allerbeste vriend Zahi Hawass heeft daar weer alle aandacht naar zich toegetrokken :(
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Re: Nefertiti, onbetreden kamers in het graf van Toetanchamo

Berichtdoor yuti » Ma Mei 09, 2016 4:23 pm

Als het resultaat van de conferentie is :
"Archeologen maken fiks ruzie over geheime kamers in graf van Toetanchamon.... Hawass - die volgens Euronews de hand van Reeves niet wilde schudden - zou hebben voorgesteld om een onafhankelijke onderzoeksgroep het onderzoek verder te laten uitvoeren", dan kan je dat alleen maar jammer vinden.
We zijn er dus nog niet uit.....
http://www.demorgen.be/wetenschap/arche ... -b74c6308/
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Re: Nefertiti, onbetreden kamers in het graf van Toetanchamo

Berichtdoor gaspard » Ma Mei 09, 2016 5:03 pm

In het verleden bleek meermaals dat Zahi Hawass dacht dat hij de ENIGE egyptoloog was,die vermeldenswaardige ontdekkingen kon doen in Egypte.
Ik moet vaststellen dat die man steeds weer uiting geeft van een onvoorstelbare megalomanie :(
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Re: Nefertiti, onbetreden kamers in het graf van Toetanchamo

Berichtdoor gaspard » Di Mei 10, 2016 11:22 pm

In de Nederlandse krant De Volkskrant verscheen op 9/5/2016 een artikel,dat aangeeft dat het 'probleem met de verborgen grafkamers' in het graf van Toetanchamon voorlopig zeker nog niet is opgelost :(
URL : http://www.volkskrant.nl/wetenschap/gra ... ~a4297430/
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Re: Nefertiti, onbetreden kamers in het graf van Toetanchamo

Berichtdoor gaspard » Wo Mei 11, 2016 11:23 pm

Wanneer ik de verschillende artikels lees i.v.m.het congres over het graf van Toetanchamon (GEM in Caïro;van 6/5 tem.8/5/2016) heb ik 3 conclusies:
1.Verschillende 'gezaghebbende' egyptologen hebben zich op het congres gedragen als kleine kinderen :(
2.Het kan nog lange tijd duren vooraleer 'het raadsel van het graf van Toetanchamon' is opgelost.
3.Niettegenstaande Zahi Hawass in het verleden meermaals 'geblunderd' heeft als egyptoloog,heeft hij daaruit geen lessen getrokken en meent hij zijn megalomane houding te moeten
houden :x
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Re: Nefertiti, onbetreden kamers in het graf van Toetanchamo

Berichtdoor gaspard » Vr Mei 13, 2016 11:52 pm

Op de Nederlandse website Newsmonkey verscheen op 13/5/2016 een artikel,waarin men beweert dat de Egyptische overheid de waarheid i.v.m.de geheime kamers in het graf van Toetanchamon vezwijgt :(
URL : http://newsmonkey.be/article/66973
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Re: Nefertiti, onbetreden kamers in het graf van Toetanchamo

Berichtdoor gaspard » Di Feb 07, 2017 5:33 pm

Het EEF mailde op 7/2/2017 het volgende vertaalde bericht over KV62

"In December, MoA has asked an Italian team (from Turin) to do a final scan of KV62, and a complete ground radar scan of the Valley of the Kings.
But there is no security clearance yet,so no date has been set.

No confirmation from an Egyptian source available, but Dr Zahi Hawass has said in a recent interview (FB Q&A, Feb. 1):
"(..) And in a few weeks from now, we'll be starting a project to scan the Valley of the Kings – we know that many tombs are missing, such as the tombs of Amenhotep I, Tuthmosis II,Ramesses VIII, and of all the Dynasty 18 queens who were buried in the Valley of the Kings.(..)

We kunnen niet meer dan wachten :(
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Re: Nefertiti, onbetreden kamers in het graf van Toetanchamo

Berichtdoor gaspard » Vr Mrt 10, 2017 11:20 pm

In de nieuwsbrief van 10/3/2017 van Egyptologie.nl attendeert de gekende Nederlandse egyptoloog Huub Pragt op het feit dat er momenteel scepsis bestaat over de aanwezigheid van een verborgen kamer in het graf van Toetanchamon.
URL : http://www.egyptologie.nl/scepsis-onder ... tanchamon/
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Berichtdoor gaspard » Do Feb 01, 2018 10:05 pm

Ontvangen dd. 1/2/2018 via EEF:

MoA press release 1-2-2018

"An Italian mission from the Polytechnic Faculty of Turin University started today (Thursday 1/02/2018) the third radar scanning inside the tomb of King Tutankhamun on the west bank of Luxor.
The survey aims to detect the inconclusive results of two previous radar scanning conducted inside and outside the tomb as well as verifying if it conceals void spaces behind its western and northern walls.
Dr. Mohamed Ismail, Director of the Permanent Committes and Foreign Missions at the Ministry of Antiquities said that the current radar survey reflects the Ministry of Antiquities’keenness on ensuing scientific credibility in accordance with the recommendation suggested at a conference held in 2016 at the Grand Egyptian Museum to discuss the different results from the two previous radar surveys.
He added that the survey will last for a week and then the radar readings will be then studied and analyzed in order to come up with detailed result.
Dr. Ismail asserted that the radar used in the scanning is a non-destructive state-of-the -art device."

Moa= Ministry of Antiquities
Ik ben benieuwd wat de uitslag van deze 3e scan zal zijn :roll:
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Re: Nefertiti, onbetreden kamers in het graf van Toetanchamo

Berichtdoor gaspard » Do Feb 01, 2018 10:18 pm

In de Engelse editie van het Italiaans Tijdschrift Arts, Culture and Style verscheen op 30/1/2018 het bericht dat het MoA op 1/2/2018 via het EEF publiceerde.
URL : http://www.ansa.it/english/news/lifesty ... 699a6.html
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Re: Nefertiti, onbetreden kamers in het graf van Toetanchamo

Berichtdoor gaspard » Zo Mei 06, 2018 4:37 pm

Breaking news van EEF op 6/5/2018
MOA Press Release 6/5/2018

High-level geophysics research provides conclusive evidence on the non-existence of hidden chambers adjacent to or inside Tutankhamun’s tomb (KV62).

Dr. Mostaf Waziri, Secretary General of the Supreme Council of Antiquities announced adding that the Head of the Italian scientific team Dr. Francesco Porcelli of the Polytechnic University of Turin is to provide all details of the Ground Penetrating Radar (GPR) studies and analysis during a speech he would deliver today at 5:30 pm at the current Fourth Tutankhamun International Conference.

The team also include experts from the nearby University of Turin and from two private geophysics companies, Geostudi Astier (Leghorn) and 3DGeoimaging (Turin), who have completed the analysis of the GPR data collected from the inside of Tutankhamun’s tomb (code name KV62) last February 2018.

Dr. Waziri pointed out that Dr. Porcelli has submitted a scientific report to the Permanent Committee for Ancient Egyptian Antiquities at the Ministry of Antiquities with all the results of the GPR data analyses, revealing that the GPR scans were performed along vertical and horizontal directions with very dense spatial sampling. Double antenna polarizations where also employed, with transmitting and receiving dipoles both orthogonal and parallel to the scanning direction.

Dr. Porcelli asserted that the main findings are as follows:
No marked discontinuities due to the passage from natural rock to man-made blocking walls are evidenced by the GPR radargrams, nor there is any evidence of the jambs or the lintel of a doorway. Similarly, the radargrams do not show any indication of plane reflectors, which could be interpreted as chamber walls or void areas behind the paintings of KV62 funerary chamber.

It is concluded, with a very high degree of confidence, said Dr. Porcelli, the hypothesis concerning the existence of hidden chambers or corridors adjacent to Tutankhamun’s tomb is not supported by the GPR data :(
This is the third GPR survey to be conducted. It was designed to stop the controversy aroused after the contradictive results of two previous radar surveys carried out by a scientific Japanese and American teams, to inspect the accuracy of a theory launched in 2015 by British Egyptologist Nicholas Reeves who suggested the existence of queen Nefertiti’s tomb concealed behind the north and west wall paintings of king Tutankhamun’s burial chamber.

To solve the difficulties encountered by the two preceding surveys and provide a conclusive response, the Ministry of Antiquities in early 2016, decided to discuss the matter in the second International Tutankhamun Conference held in May 2016 and attended by a group of pioneer scholars, archaeologists and Egyptologists who on their turn asserted to conduct a third GPR systems with different technology to put an end to such debate.
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Re: Nefertiti, onbetreden kamers in het graf van Toetanchamo

Berichtdoor gaspard » Zo Mei 06, 2018 5:07 pm

Op de website van National Geographic staat een artikel van 6/5/2018 dat bevestigt dat er geen verborgen kamer is in het graf van Toetanchamon :( :( :(
URL : https://news.nationalgeographic.com/201 ... s-science/
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Re: Nefertiti, onbetreden kamers in het graf van Toetanchamo

Berichtdoor Philip Arrhidaeus » Zo Mei 06, 2018 6:34 pm

gaspard schreef:Op de website van National Geographic staat een artikel van 6/5/2018 dat bevestigt dat er geen verborgen kamer is in het graf van Toetanchamon :( :( :(
URL : https://news.nationalgeographic.com/201 ... s-science/


Inderdaad Gaspard.

Dubbele gevoelens heb ik. Enerzijds had ik vanzelfsprekend zeer graag gezien dat er wel wat te vinden was ! en vrees ik een beetje dat voortaan voor "wild educated guesses" minder fondsen vrijgemaakt zullen worden, anderzijds was het wel een zeer wilde professionele inschatting en zijn er zoveel andere financieel noodlijdende en verwaarloosde projecten. Maar het was een groots media-avontuur.

06/05/18
New survey confirms no hidden Nefertiti chamber in Tutankhamun's tomb

http://english.ahram.org.eg/News/298932.aspx

“It is concluded, with a very high degree of confidence, that the hypothesis concerning the existence of hidden chambers or corridors adjacent to Tutankhamun’s tomb is not supported by the GPR data,” Porcelli said in the report.

This is the third GPR survey to be conducted inside the tomb in recent years. It was designed to stop the controversy aroused after the contradictory results of two previous radar surveys to inspect the accuracy of a theory launched in 2015 by British Egyptologist Nicholas Reeves, who suggested that the tomb of queen Nefertiti could be concealed behind the north and west wall paintings of Tutankhamun’s burial chamber.
The theory was supported by former minister of antiquities Mamdouh Eldamaty, who agreed to conduct two GPR surveys. The first was conducted by a Japanese professional who asserted with 95 percent certainty the existence of a doorway and a hall with artefacts.
The second radar survey was carried out with another high-tech GPR device by an American scientific team from National Geographic, who rejected the previous Japanese results and asserted that nothing existed behind the west and north wall of Tutankhamun's burial chamber.
To solve the difficulties encountered by the two preceding surveys and provide a conclusive response, the current antiquities minister, Khaled El-Enany, who took office in March 2016, decided to discuss the matter at the second International Tutankhamun Conference, which was attended by a group of pioneer scholars and archaeologists who decided to conduct a third GPR analysis to put an end to the debate.


Egypte is formeel: achter de muren van de tombe van Toetanchamon gaan geen verborgen ruimtes schuil
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/nl/2018/05/06 ... tanchamon/
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